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Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ricossa Feb 19. 23 Replies

Greetings! I have taken an interest in the theory presented by Jan van Biezen, a short summary of which can be found here:…Continue

 

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Ricossa replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Ici, un petit exemple de chant byzantin médiéval interprété plus ou moins selon les principes découverts par Van Biezen:http://paraphonista.hostarea.ch/mp3/Tin_pnevmatikin.mp3"
Feb 19
Dr. Dirk van Kampen replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Indeed, as clearly put by Geert Maessen, "semiology has more to do with folklore than with science". But, for the mensuralist 'solutions', the same reasoning applies. My own research (see my JMRO paper mentioned above) offers a…"
Feb 15
Ricossa replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Bravo"
Feb 15
Geert Maessen replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"As often I completely agree with Luca. Semiology has more to do with folklore than with science. Yes, it is an improvement compared to before. But it is far from the "truth". In my view Van Biezen "proved" the inconsistency of…"
Feb 15
Ricossa replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"A priori. The same a priori that ruined the transcriptions from the byzantine manuscripts in the past... You don't need to give attention to those saying the contrary"
Feb 14
Jerome F. Weber replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"It is the mensuralists who claim that there is "a quite precise notation of rhythm". They mean precisely mensural. The research scholars of Solesmes find free rhythm and do not use the word "precise." There have been nine…"
Feb 14
Fyodor N replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Yes, I know of Lingas and Arvanitis. The question of rhythm of the medieval byzantine repertoire is mainly Arvanitis' work I believe. However, as you probably understand, byzantine chant is an uninterrupted living tradition, unlike Gregorian…"
Feb 14
Ricossa replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"the oldest neumatic manuscrits give a quite precise notation of the rhythm. About byz. chant, to my knowledge, Lingas and Arvanitis are the only ones to record it according to the ancient manuscripts. Their interpretation (Cappella Romana)…"
Feb 14
Fyodor N replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Thank you. This is all very interesting. I am fascinated by ancient forms of ecclesiastical music. Gregorian chant is very unique in this matter, as the repertoire itself has not changed since the 11th or 12th century. As far as I understand,…"
Feb 14
Geert Maessen replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Many thanks Arnold. Apparently I have not payed the right attention to your CD. I am re-listening it. Indeed very interesting."
Feb 14
Arnold den Teuling replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Actually I published a cd according to the mensuralist interpretation with my Schola cantorum Gregoriana Assen in 2009. My interpretation may be not very convincing or satisfying, but it is at least an interesting attempt. See…"
Feb 14
Ricossa replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"D. Vellard is not mensuralist"
Feb 13
Ricossa replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Go to my youtube channel, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtWv9zRuorkaSfA49jDU7Cw?view_as=subscriber ;, especially the antiphons"
Feb 13
Annie coeurdevey replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"OK, but you have to consider the date of the recording: 1985. Are they many similar recordings at this date?"
Feb 13
Fyodor N replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Thank you. Will have a look."
Feb 13
Fyodor N replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Thank you. I will check."
Feb 13

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