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Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen

Started this discussion. Last reply by Alasdair Codona Oct 15. 80 Replies

Greetings! I have taken an interest in the theory presented by Jan van Biezen, a short summary of which can be found here:…Continue

 

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Alasdair Codona replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"The website appears to be having problems with inputting italics."
Oct 15
Alasdair Codona replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
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Oct 15
Alasdair Codona replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Tenor uero id est ultimae uocis mora.  qui in sillaba quantuluscumque est. amplior in parte. diutissimus uero in distinctione. signum in his diuisionis existit. Sicque opus est. ut quasi metricis pedibus cantilena plaudatur. et aliae uoces ab…"
Oct 15
Alasdair Codona replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Tenor uero id est ultimae uocis mora.  qui in sillaba quantuluscumque est. amplior in parte. diutissimus uero in distinctione. signum in his diuisionis existit. Sicque opus est. ut quasi metricis pedibus cantilena plaudatur. et aliae uoces ab…"
Oct 15
Alasdair Codona replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"<I've seen this long-substitution all over the Alleluias.  But it is also in the more standard repertory as well.  The opening figure D-F-G-F of Introit Dominus dixit, found also a few other Mode 2 neumatic antiphons, is properly…"
Oct 13
Alasdair Codona replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"<The contrary example you gave from Alleluia Jubilate Deo highlights the parallel between Laon and St. Gall of a short-long on one hand and a long-long on the other. I think the most reasonable explanation here is that the second note is indeed a…"
Oct 13
Alasdair Codona replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"<Case 1: If you have heard "Ad te levavi" or a similar figure only ever sung with that 'liquescent' lower D between the first two syllables, then you are far less likely to omit the D, however the D is performed, because the D…"
Oct 13
Alasdair Codona replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"<Case 1: If you have heard "Ad te levavi" or a similar figure only ever sung with that 'liquescent' lower D between the first two syllables, then you are far less likely to omit the D, however the D is performed, because the D…"
Oct 13
Kevin M. Rooney replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"A/the tenor, that is, the 'mora' of the last note - which, however small it is in a syllable, is larger in a part and longest in a distinction - is a sign of division in these. And so it is necessary that the melody should be clapped as if…"
Sep 25
Kevin M. Rooney replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
""I have never thought of liquescence as being particularly connected either with melody transmission or consonant clusters, as you mention in point3." Case 1: If you have heard "Ad te levavi" or a similar figure only ever sung…"
Sep 24
Alasdair Codona replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Point 2a is a good analysis and I would only add that N can produce a schwa as well. With regard to point 2b, I would note that liquescence is a linguistically determined feature and that the stress of verbal syllables never falls on the consonant…"
Aug 21
Alasdair Codona replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"I am grateful to everyone for engaging in public discussion in this way.  I think this point is very important to discuss publicly.  My own culture makes much use of epenthetic vowels in speech alone and, ever since starting to examine the…"
Aug 21
Ricossa replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"l'initio debilis n'es pas un problème si on le considère simplement comme un effet vocal très répandu, qui s'appelle portamento. Ici un exemple par Vaccai :"
Aug 20
Alasdair Codona replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"My own reading of the Commemoratio brevis in does not regard it as presenting the tremula as a brief note.  I will present the passage and an English translation in order to refer to it clearly. Tenor uero id est ultimae uocis mora.  qui…"
Aug 20
Ricossa replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Quelques initio debilis par ci et par là https://youtu.be/GNsN8cR4mtw"
Aug 19
Ricossa replied to Fyodor N's discussion Rhythm, Meter and Tempo of Gregorian Chant according to Jan van Biezen
"Ornaments (Vinnola=Pressus maior/minor; Tremula=Quilisma, etc...) were not perceived as precise notes. The proof in the Montpellier Tonaire, where the ornaments are repeated above the letter-notation, signifying that they cannot be represented by…"
Aug 17

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