Improvised Polyphony in the 14th Century (Lecture-Performance)
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Niels Berentsen joined Alberto Diaz-Blanco's group
Enregistrements de la musique grégorienne et médiévale
Groupe dédié à tout ce qui concerne les enregistrements de chants liturgiques médiévaux (grégorien, mozarabe, ambrosien, romain, bénéventain...) ainsi que d'autres répertoires médiévaux religieux.See More
Niels Berentsen replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Utrecht : new source polyphonic of Puer natus in Bethleem in the group Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Thanks for satisfying the curiosity of yours truly :)"
Niels Berentsen replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Utrecht : new source polyphonic of Puer natus in Bethleem in the group Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"They do make a nice cross shape indeed. Could be interesting to check these other sources, to see if - conceivably - there are missing parts."
Niels Berentsen replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Utrecht : new source polyphonic of Puer natus in Bethleem in the group Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Brussels Ms. II 270, fol. 137v-138r ("Handschrift Koning"). A similar kind of notation with minims and puncta instead of semibreves and breves."
Niels Berentsen replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Utrecht : new source polyphonic of Puer natus in Bethleem in the group Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Perhaps this could be another solution for b. 15-17. I'm not sure, as it means interpreting one of these virga as a minim and the other not."
Niels Berentsen replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Utrecht : new source polyphonic of Puer natus in Bethleem in the group Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"[Update] OK. If we assume this is homorhythmic (at least that syllables fall on the same place) this should be the result approximately.
To me it looks rather fifteenth century, especially if I'm right about that dot in b. 16, what do you all…"
Niels Berentsen replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Utrecht : new source polyphonic of Puer natus in Bethleem in the group Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"For a comparison, see for instance this piece from the so-called "Handschrift Tongeren" (ca 1480)"
Niels Berentsen replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Utrecht : new source polyphonic of Puer natus in Bethleem in the group Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"This kind of mixed notation very often appears in sources of the Devotio Moderna.
It looks like a typical devotional song in triple time (double dots are equivalent to imperfect breves).
Is anyone attemption a transcription?"
Niels Berentsen replied to Christoph Dohrmann's discussion Some FUNDAMENTAL abuses and changes in the approach towards performance practice in the group Performance Practice
"Christoph, thanks for sharing your idea's. Unfortunately I have to disagree with the tenor of your post. Firstly you posit a lot of "has and need to's" for performers of medieval repertoires. On a very basic level musicians…"
Niels Berentsen joined Christoph Dohrmann's group
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Niels Berentsen joined fra Innocent Smith, o.p.'s group
Cantus Ordinis Praedicatorum (Chant dominicain)
Ce groupe est pour la discussion du dialecte dominicaine du chant grégorien.See More
Niels Berentsen replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Hymnes rythmés dans un manuscrit de 1495 in the group Mensuralistes
"I think in this source the main issue is what to count as an upbeat, and (by consequence) which longa should "have" a point. For instance the "a solis ortus", I would be tempted to start that with an upbeat, but treat the first…"
Niels Berentsen replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Hymnes rythmés dans un manuscrit de 1495 in the group Mensuralistes
"Très intéressant! Il y a quelques ambiguïtés dans cette notation, mais il me semble que c'est tout en mesure binaire. "
Niels Berentsen replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion PROVINS, Bibliothèque municipale (F-PR) in the group Manuscrits notés et catalogues en ligne
"Si on voit par example l'hymne Conditor Alme Siderum de Dufay, le superius suit la même rhythme trochaïque, et en plus le plain chant pour les versets impairs a Modena Alfa X.1.11 l'a aussi (noté en longues et…"
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- I'm a singer and a PhD student at the Orpheus Institute, Ghent, which has a doctoral research programme for musicians. The subject of my research is different techniques of oral (not to say "improvised") polyphony that where applied to chant, know amongst others as contrapunctus, cantus super librum and discantus. My research centres around the application of information found in sources into singing, and a reflection on how such skills can be best acquired.
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I'm a singer and a PhD student at the Orpheus Institute, Ghent, which has a doctoral research programme for musicians. The subject of my research is different techniques of oral (not to say "improvis…
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I'm a singer and a PhD student at the Orpheus Institute, Ghent, which has a doctoral research programme for musicians. The subject of my research is different techniques of oral (not to say "improvised") polyphony that where applied to chant, know amongst others as contrapunctus, cantus super librum and discantus. My research centres around the application of information found in sources into practical singing, and a reflection on how such skills can be best acquired.
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