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XIV (1375-1400) ▪ Evangeliarum in usum Ecclesiae S. Petri Trajecti ad Rhenum, lectures avec neumes et accents, passions avec lettres de hauteur de récitation. 186v-187v Liber generationis..., 189v Puer natus in Bethleem… à deux voix, notation à clous sur lignes
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Thanks for satisfying the curiosity of yours truly :)
No trace of them in Prague, which I posted. Nor in the other one.
They do make a nice cross shape indeed. Could be interesting to check these other sources, to see if - conceivably - there are missing parts.
No: only that single voice in Prague (and in the other AH melody); but it seemed to me -- and I'm happy to be contradicted -- that the crossing of the two voices results in a piece that makes sense, whereas the gradual falling range of the voice you call 'tenor' results in a meaningless melody.
Maybe the voice I labeled 'tenor', which is also the one from Prague, circulated as a monophic piece? (Or did I miss that you also found the other voice in AH?)
No: I wasn't questioning the date of the copy (though, as you say, it can be seriously hard to tell); merely stating my view that the polyphony existed in the early 14th century, even though the source has only one voice and none of the mensural indications.
Perhaps Ulrike Hasche-Burger could say a bit more about this, but this type of 'semi-mensural' repetoire from the Low Countries is very conservative, in other words it might be 15th century as well. From the counterpoint I find it hard to tell.
Thanks for sharing all these pieces, very interesting. AA
Phew: it seems to be there. The mensuration here is all my own, but the pitches and the text underlay are from the MS. In my view, the two-voice piece was there at the beginning of the 14th century.
Sorry: I don't know how to attach. Dominique, or somebody, can you tell me now to download a pdf file into this space?
Puer natus Prag - Full Score.pdf
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