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  • Dear Peter,

    apologies, there are 15 snippets of paper, but as far as I can see only one - the one Dominique highlighted - is musical.There is no musical notation on the flip side, only a blank musical staff, and somebody has scribbled text across it at a later stage. My early-modern reading skills aren't really good enough to decipher it swiftly, but it looks like 16th/17th century handwriting.

    Brumel flip side.pdf

  • dear Barbara,

       Are you saying there are 15 more fragments?  Should we all take a look?  Or perhaps they are not musical fragments.  I was also wondering whether the smudges on the fragment indicate that we are looking at what was originally a recto of the leaf; since this is a bassus part, that would suggest that this is not a German scribe; JenaU 31 presents the bassus on the verso.

    Barbara Eichner a dit :

    Thank you, Dominique, for sharing the find, and thank you, Peter Urquart, for the identification. This is very exciting for me, as the book was in the possession of the Benedictines of St Zeno of Reichenhall at some point, and also shows an entry from Rohr (Austin canons). According to the digitisation the musical fragment was a lose "Notizblatt" in the book, together with 15 others.

    A new very smal fragment !
    Cette publication pourrait faire l'objet d'un jeu concours ! Ce fragment est contenu dans un imprimé de la Bayerische Staatsbibliothek de München : V…
  • Et toujours personne pour ces deux autres découvertes ?

    Nouveau fragment d'un Salve et d'un Agnus polyphonique du XVème

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    Nouvelle source d'un Gloria mesuré XVe !

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  • Thank you, Dominique, for sharing the find, and thank you, Peter Urquart, for the identification. This is very exciting for me, as the book was in the possession of the Benedictines of St Zeno of Reichenhall at some point, and also shows an entry from Rohr (Austin canons). According to the digitisation the musical fragment was a lose "Notizblatt" in the book, together with 15 others.

  • Bravo indeed!

  • Wow ! Bravo !!!


    Peter Urquhart a dit :

    I have stumbled upon the identity of the line...

    A new very smal fragment !
    Cette publication pourrait faire l'objet d'un jeu concours ! Ce fragment est contenu dans un imprimé de la Bayerische Staatsbibliothek de München : V…
  • I have stumbled upon the identity of the line: it is from bassus part of Brumel's Missa Bon Temps, at the text "benedicimus te," as identified in the previous communication.  The mass occurs in a number of sources, including JenaU 31, which is where I found it, by accident.  I was looking there because the cadence approach in the bassus reminded me of a similar cadence approach in the Ad fugam mass Gloria attributed to Josquin, which is also carried in JenaU 31.  But the fragment doesn't fit the Josquin mass (68v), and is an exact match for the Brumel (128v).  A score is found in CMM 5 (1970) ed. by Barton Hudson.

    -Peter Urquhart

  • Il s'agit certainement d'un Gloria, comme l'a fait remarqué Luca Ricossa sur FB.

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