off Domine Iesu Christe (Graduale novum)

Bonjour,

Une question à propos de la version du GN. Pourquoi la notation carrée n'a pas été restituée conformément aux neumes de St Gall figurant en dessous ? Par exemple : les 2 torculus à la fin de laCU, sur leoNIS, obsCUrum, Ejus … Quel est le manuscrit qui a été suivi ?

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  • Another manuscript that shows a version thatt could have influenced the Vatican Edition is Modena 13.

    165 verso, line 7 till 166 recto, line 6. If our 'manuscript-magician' Dominique could show that, I would be most gratefull.

    I have a very bad copy.

  • Merci Franco !

    Paris, bnf, Lat 1087, 96v

    f208.highres

  • The best version (uptill now) is to be found in the PbN 1087 on page 96 verso.

    The neumes go (for the corpus) very well with the 1908 version.
    We should look in that direction for a diastematic witness for the 1908.

    On the other side, the neumes to the verse Hostias differ a lot.

  • The version of BpN 13254 Graduale from Chelles shows on 119v a version that is quite similar to the 1908 version.

    The manuscript is online since september last year (see Gallica)

  • We worked on the piece for the Edition of Beiträge zur Gregorianik 49.

    We couldn't come to convincing conclusions on behalf of the differing variants we found in the manuscripts.

    The mss. we consulted are listed in BzG 49 on page 23.

    The version that appears in the GrN is the version we always take as departure: the Graduale 1908.

     

    An example. You ask about the torculus on la-CU.

    We didn't find any manuscript with torculus on this last syllabe.

    Most have a single d. Benevent 34 + 40 and Modena 7 have a pes cd

     

    Verdun 159, 265 writes la-cu as dfdcd, d.

    Thomaskirche as efedcdc, d.

    One could construct a torculus by shifthing neumes from on syllabe to the other,

    but that would be hypothetical.

     

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