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Williamsburg, VA


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June 30


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Ars antiqua, Liturgie, Théorie musicale, Manuscrits (paléographie)


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Notre Dame school


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Thomas B. Payne replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Discovery of a new organa book fragment in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"Thanks so much for bringing this to our attention.  I don't know if anyone has already done this, but if anyone is interested, the unidentified conclusion of the piece in the top system of f. 1r is Alleluia Veni electa [M54]. C-Zu V.E.15 preserves…"
May 9, 2021
Thomas B. Payne replied to Thomas B. Payne's discussion Classical references in the conductus "Nobilitas animi?" in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"Thank you.  I have it and will consult it on this specific question. Your input is appreciated."
Jun 26, 2019
Oliver Gerlach replied to Thomas B. Payne's discussion Classical references in the conductus "Nobilitas animi?" in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"You might be interested in Jacopo Mazzeo's PhD thesis about “The Two-Part Conductus: Morphology, Dating and Authorship” (University of Southhampton 2015):
https://eprints.soton.ac.uk/389789/1/Jacopo%2520Mazzeo%2520PhD%2520...
But the author is…"
Jun 26, 2019
Oliver Gerlach replied to Thomas B. Payne's discussion Classical references in the conductus "Nobilitas animi?" in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"Looks like a common case of philological domestification in that case. Thanks for pointing it out!"
Jun 26, 2019
Thomas B. Payne replied to Thomas B. Payne's discussion Classical references in the conductus "Nobilitas animi?" in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"None that I know of.  It was a completely editorial decision on Anderson's part, as he says in his edition, vol. 5, p. 113."
Jun 26, 2019
Oliver Gerlach replied to Thomas B. Payne's discussion Classical references in the conductus "Nobilitas animi?" in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"In that case, I just do ask myself which source testifies the olim-version."
Jun 26, 2019
Thomas B. Payne replied to Thomas B. Payne's discussion Classical references in the conductus "Nobilitas animi?" in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"I am sure he would have, but this particular composition (at least as far as we know) is preserved only in F."
Jun 26, 2019
Oliver Gerlach replied to Thomas B. Payne's discussion Classical references in the conductus "Nobilitas animi?" in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"Well, Anderson should have listed all the sources in the apparatus where “olim” replaced the first “fuit”, but F is very likely the earliest!"
Jun 26, 2019
Thomas B. Payne replied to Thomas B. Payne's discussion Classical references in the conductus "Nobilitas animi?" in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"Thank you, Olivier,
Yes, I realize the repetition of "fuit" is necessary.  I was merely arguing for its legitimacy ut stat, since Anderson's edition (which is followed by the CPI website) changed the first "fuit" to "olim."  I have checked Ludwig,…"
Jun 26, 2019
Oliver Gerlach replied to Thomas B. Payne's discussion Classical references in the conductus "Nobilitas animi?" in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"F (fol. 317r) has definitely the repetition of "fuit" (“fuit fuit publica modo sola relinquitur” the first part corresponds melodically to “sola est ac unica”, also for reasons of meter and rhyme)!
In case of doubt I would recommend to check with…"
Jun 25, 2019
Thomas B. Payne replied to Thomas B. Payne's discussion Classical references in the conductus "Nobilitas animi?" in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"A further thought:
Most interestingly, Brunetto Latini brings the Juvenal and Ciceronian references together in his Li Livres dou Trésor, (2,114,2-3). In this passage, Latini notes that those who like to call attention to their noble heritage, but…"
Jun 25, 2019
Thomas B. Payne replied to Thomas B. Payne's discussion Marginal strokes in the Florence MS in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"Thanks to Sean Curran for his reactions!"
Jun 11, 2019
Thomas B. Payne replied to Solveig Lerat's discussion Cahiers de civilisation médiévale sont en ligne
"This is wonderful!!  Thank you for bringing it to my attention.  Very much appreciated!"
Jun 21, 2015
Thomas B. Payne replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Egerton MS 274 (en-ligne) in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"Thanks so much!  Some of my friends at the Ars Antiqua Facebook group have suggested some ways to access the images as well.  This is much appreciated"
May 30, 2014
Thomas B. Payne replied to Dominique Gatté's discussion Egerton MS 274 (en-ligne) in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"Fantastic to have this available, as it includes the only attributed collection of the poems of Philip the Chancellor along with their musical settings.  Too bad there is no way to download the manuscript as a whole... or am I missing something?"
May 28, 2014
Thomas B. Payne replied to Etienne STOFFEL's discussion Crucifigat à 3 voix dans Wolfenbüttel 1099 in Notre-Dame School and Ars Antiqua
"So, I'll be interested to see if GAA mentions what he has added on his own in his commentary. There's always something interesting coming out of these seemingly innocuous questions!"
May 18, 2014
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