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Grégorien, Manuscrits (paléographie)


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Gregorian scores database


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  • Ah, the Wayback Machine! I've never used it, but I'd be interested in getting to know it. However, this link just takes me to a blank page with a timeline at the top. How do you find a facsimile from there?

    Thanks,

    Eric

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Olivier Berten left a comment for Eric Mentzel
Feb 26, 2021
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"The score and the music it represents are 2 different things protected by different copyrights. Lot of the music contained in the manuscripts (which is the only thing that could still be under copyright until 2039) has been subject to "issue of…"
Feb 3, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Olivier Berten a dit :
This means indeed that out of the 5 works from DIAMM published on IMSLP (I thought there were many more, given the fuzz about it), 2 are still under copyright.






Well... actually not... It took me some more time to find…"
Feb 3, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Jason Stoessel a dit :
In fact these sections of the act are not pertinent to perpetual copyright. Instead see SCHEDULE 1, section 13(1) of the same act. Most of this music was only published IN EDITION in recent years and some remains unpublished.…"
Feb 2, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Jason Stoessel a dit :
Since I have already responded to the matter of public domain in my earlier responses, I suggest a review of them will answer your questions. But I'm afraid Monsieur Berten it is not appropriate to ask a complete stranger…"
Feb 2, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Yves Chartier a dit :
Il n'en reste pas moins que l'attitude insolente de cet Edward Guo envers les éditeurs de musique frise l'indécence. S'il veut vraiment aider la musique contemporaine, qu'il en publie lui-même à ses propres frais dans sa propre…"
Feb 1, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Thanks for these informations about Mr Guo. As these are rather easy to find, I guess they will take away the transparency worries of Mr Stoessel (mine are still there about his transparency about the legal informations he got on Public Domain…"
Feb 1, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Olivier Berten a dit :
And I guess you didn't forget to ask him about the international property situation of the books themselves. So what did he say?





I meant "intellectual property", of course."
Jan 30, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Répertoire des manuscrits médiévaux notés
"And it's mentionned as well on the page http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:Other_music_score_websites as a source for original scores scans."
Jan 30, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Répertoire des manuscrits médiévaux notés
"Gillian Lander a dit :
It appears the DIAMM link has gone from the IMSLP site



I'm afraid you didn't check the right place: next to each score link, there is the scanner reference. Let's just take a random one:…"
Jan 30, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Jason Stoessel a dit :
Concerning copyright on photographic images from manuscripts, the advice that I have received from a highly reputed expert on international copyright (who practises in the UK and EU) can be summarised thus:




And I guess you…"
Jan 30, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Jason Stoessel a dit :
1. Where a manuscript is photographed, the replica is in a form different from the photographed object and the photographer is able to make creative choices at the moment of fixation and post-fixation which might give him/her…"
Jan 30, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Jason Stoessel a dit :
IMSLP's lack of transparency and track record is less than best practice. Adieu!



What sort of transparency do you miss? DIAMM's work recognition? It's always been there as well as all sources of all images uploaded on IMSLP."
Jan 30, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Jason Stoessel a dit :
which might give him/her copyright.


We're back to the key question... Points 2 and 3 are void if that first condition isn't verified... Given IMSLP has passed through several legal questionning, I guess they are confident…"
Jan 30, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Links to DIAMM are already on IMSLP, right next to the download links. Gillian Lander a dit :
A bargaining quid pro quo might be links to DIAMM from the IMSLP site and vice versa."
Jan 30, 2014
Olivier Berten replied to J Craig-McFeely's discussion Copyright infringement in Ars nova et Ars subtilior
"Jacques Meegens a dit :
Et les conditions d'utilisation de DIAMM ne me semblent pas avoir été enfreintes, dans la mesure où il n'y a pas eu violation du droit d'auteur ?



En s'enregistrant sur DIAMM, l'utilisateur accepte aussi de n'utiliser les…"
Jan 30, 2014
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