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April 25
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Grégorien, Ars antiqua, Ars nova, Chants vernaculaires, Chants des ordres religieux, Liturgie, Manuscrits (paléographie), Autre
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Vokalmusik des Mittelalters, Paleographie, Motette, Choral, frühe Polyphonie, Aufführungspraxis, Aquitanien - Stil und Notation
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"we're looking for much earlier source than "Piae cantiones" and also of a monophonic version
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"Dear Oliver, maybe we misunderstood each other. I'm talking only about a monodic piece (nothing about clausulae or so).
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"I'm not looking for any of it, the mention of Madrid 289 and Egerton was just related to your association with Dominique's CD. We know that the text of Puer natus wandered off into cantiones repertoire at some point (including BD).
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"Oliver, I think they mean II. as Dorian plagal, no? Krisztina: where is your transcription from? What a funny story: a well known piece with very obscure origins, it seems...
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"aa, maybe in my example 1. means simply the first strophe. Still, 2nd mode is also not entirely convincing."
"Dominique's version is from Egerton 2615 anyway (and melodically even further away). But this aside: it seems really impossible to find the Puer natus in Bethleem origins or even the earliest version. Plus the ambiguity in mode assignment - here an…"
"Just to drop a line here: "Natus est" (Ma 289) has a different melody as the one recollected by Oliver, but uses the formula re fa fa mi do mi re (similar to the cadence "cum novo cantico" here), however in a completely different context. Maybe that…"
"Hi! Two first bits of the fragment 2 contain Engelberg concordance Illibata virgo/Egregia sponsa (Eng 314, fol. 135v-136v)"
"WOW!!!!!"
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